Oxford Union to debate homosexual parenting (See Post: Pastor Lively Misses Debate Due To Mix-Up In Dates)

The Oxford Union will debate the following motion, “This House would be glad to have gay parents.”

The date – 31st January, 2013
The time – 8.30 pm

Pastor Scott Lively will be one of the speakers opposing the motion.

We encourage Evangelical Christians in the Oxford area to support and strengthen the Pastor.

Already, homosexuals and their supporters are agitating and organising to prevent him from taking part and even from entering the country.

They are SO afraid of the truth!

23 thoughts on “Oxford Union to debate homosexual parenting (See Post: Pastor Lively Misses Debate Due To Mix-Up In Dates)

  1. Naah – It’s just Lively falls into the same category of undesirables as the Westborough Baptist Church and they are banned. What you describe as truth is little more than hatred and bigotry wrapped up in religious nonsense. You are free to have your delusions but don’t expect that rational people will just let you bang on with your misrepresentations and mistruths just because you play the god card.

    Personally I am all for Lively appearing at Oxford – better for everyone to see what a fool he is than let him claim persecution like I am sure you will if he is banned.

  2. golfieni,

    Westboro Baptist “Church” is not a Christian group. They are a cult, following a cult leader who most of the “congregation” is related to.

    While WBC is indeed a bigoted organization, real Christians are not bigoted, nor do they hate homosexuals. Calling a behavior wrong, immoral and sinful does not equate to hating people. Of course if you claim people hate you and are bigoted against you, you get to play the “victim” card rather than deal with the argument at hand.

    So you just played the “no true Scotsman” card by defining who is “rational” and who is not. I don’t think “rational” people would have the sort of worldview you profess.

    • You say they are not a christian group – they say they are. Why should I believe you and not them?

      Calling what people do wrong, immoral and sinful does equate to hatefulness when you have no basis for the claims except to an imaginary power. If you believed it and live by the code yourself then there would not be an issue but you seem to want to tell other people that they should live by your code, what you deem right and wrong, based on your beliefs, You cannot do that and not expect other people to disagree with you. When you then use bogus science, misrepresentation of statistics and barefaced lies to support your position then you deserve to be called out on it.

      The no true scotsman has nothing to do with me defining people, you played the no true scotsman by saying the WBC are not christians because they don’t play by your christian rules. Learn your fallacies. They say they are christians, you say you are christian, the whites say they are christians, many groups say they are christians – there is either one god or none and you lot are fighting over which one god it is and completely forgetting the more obvious answer that there is none.

      • Golfieni,

        Just because WBC claims to be a Christian group, that doesn’t mean they are one. They violate many Christian doctrines and their behavior is most un-Christ-like. Many Christians, including me, have personally rebuked them for their false teachings, but they don’t care because they are of Satan. They bring shame to the name of Christ.

        It isn’t just that God says homosexual behavior is wrong and sinful (whether you believe in Him or not does not negate that He in fact does exist), biology itself proves that the human body was not designed for same-sex intercourse. It is also demonstrated to be medically as well as psychologically harmful.

        I do indeed live by the “code” of my faith, and am not trying to tell other people what they should or should not do with their sexual lives. Nor do I use “bogus science,” nor do I misrepresent statistics, nor do I say any lies in regards to homosexuality.

        I really don’t care if people want to practice sexual immorality in any way they choose, unless they begin to affect me. When the state sanctions same-sex relations, and requires the citizenry to also sanction them or be punished, then I have to speak out against it. It is THEY who are the bigots who want to force everyone to approve of their lifestyle; it is they who are intolerant of people who don’t want to agree with them. It is they who bring lawsuits, claim “hate” and “bigotry” against anyone who dares to say they don’t want to give homosexual behavior personal sanction.

        Every organization has rules by which members must ascribe in order to claim membership in said organization. If someone refuses to abide by the rules of the organization, then they can not claim to be members. This is not a “no true Scotsman” fallacy, rather it is factual identity with a group based on the group’s rules. For example, one cannot claim to be a member of the U.S. Navy if they’ve never enlisted, so to state that one who is claiming to be a member of the Navy yet never joined is not really a member, is not a “no true scotsman” fallacy. If I claimed to be a Roman Catholic and yet refused to adhere to any of their doctrines, then it would not be a “no true Scotsman” fallacy to say that I was not a Roman Catholic. In the same way, WBC adheres to virtually none of the doctrines or behavior of the Christian faith as outlined in Scripture. They are not recognized as a Christian body by any other Christians because of their doctrine and behaviors. It is not a “no true Scotsman” fallacy to state that they fraudulently use the label of Christian.

        If the Whites say WBC are Christians it would only be because they are not familiar with the group’s teachings.

      • Golfieni, when you wrote above, “…the Whites say they are Christians,” we understood you to say that we, along with Glenn, and the Westboro Baptist Church, and others, all claim to be Christians. We don’t think you were saying that we, the Whites say WBC are Christians and we hope you were not implying any such thing, because we never mentioned WBC. By the way, golfieni, we have not approved your most recent comment as the subject matter is too graphic and impure.

      • You are correct I was saying that you say you are christians, I have not seen you comment on the WBC.

        If you believe that my post was too impure and graphic then I would request that you remove glenns mistruths (as I am sure you agree that lies are impure). If you cannot do that then reinstate my post with the intent and information intact and if you have to then redact what you see as graphic. I was not the one who brought up bogus biological claims and false claims to medical and psychological harm and to restrict my ability to counter those claims would be in itself a form of bias.

  3. The Whites and Chatfield are not christians, they are just makers of propaganda, and bigoted, judgemental propaganda at that. I doubt Christ would have chosen them to walk with Him 2000 years ago, they would have bored Him silly with the nonsense they both speak and write.

  4. Golfieni,
    I challenge you to point out what I stated that was not true. It is certainly not untrue to say biology points to heterosexual behavior as being what the human body was designed for. And if you need to have proof of the medical and psychological harm from homosexual behavior, my first suggestion would be for you to do a little research. I doubt if you are interested because it would demonstrate that YOU are in error. I can provide links to many sites with research proving my statements to be true.

    James,
    Can you substantiate your charges that neither I nor the Whites are Christians? What is your evidence?

    You have made charges of bigotry, without evidence.
    You have made charges that something we have written is judgmental, yet for you to make such a statement you are being judgmental.

    • I have made my response and the Whites have seen fit to not publish it either in entirety or in redacted form. I have researched the subject and carried out significant field research too and your claims are bogus both when compared to the body of medical and psychological data available (from reputable sources not fundie misrepresentations).

      You calls to design are also bogus as the human body evolved and many parts have multiple uses. I can tell you (without being too graphic) all the parts work well in same sex relationships, you would almost think they were designed for it – but of course we know there was no design agent involved.

      • golfieni, Will you kindly take the time to read one of our earlier posts entitled, “Blood Terrorism – Gays Donating Blood” dated 25th June, 2012. The source we quote, Dr. John Diggs Jr., does not engage in “fundie misrepresentations” (your description) and neither do we or Glenn.

      • Golfieni,
        The medical and psychological evidence for the harm of homosexual behavior is rife. Your denial of it just demonstrates your own bias and refusal to look at any scholarly evidence against your position.

        The human body was designed, as was everything in the universe. You can only look at all the obvious design in everything and deny it by intellectual head in the sand. Whether “parts” can be used for other things doesn’t negate the fact that they were designed for one purpose. A hammer can be used to murder, but that doesn’t mean it was designed for murder, and murder is abusing what it was designed for.

        You can suppress the truth about God all you want, but the truth is indeed there.

      • MrandMrsWhite,

        The report you cite is from the CRC, and organisation which is linked to the Alliance Defence Fund (they have the same address and the CEO of Alliance Defence Fund is a CRC board member). Alliance defence fund is an anti gay conservative religious group actively opposing any rights for same sex attracted people. Hardly an impartial source of info and the content certainly comes under what I would describe as fundie misrepresentations.

        Glenn,

        “The medical and psychological evidence for the harm of homosexual behavior is rife”

        not from any reputable source it is not but at least you admit that much of your response is religiously inspired as even your understanding of biology is undermined by your religious beliefs.

        • The following was published in Summit Ministries’ The Journal, March 2011 issue:

          One has to wonder if Reuters reporter Julie Steenhuysen will soon be joining the millions of other Americans relegated to Obama’s swelling unemployment lines.  She evidently didn’t get the media memo last week and violated the goose-stepping Left’s Orwellian requirement that we all adhere to obtuse notions of political correctness.

          Having contracted a rare case of journalistic objectivity, Ms. Steenhuysen penned a story that dared to detail a recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study on homosexuality.

          The study exposed the jaw-dropping fact that one-in-five “gay” and “bisexual” men in American cities have been infected with HIV/AIDS.  Needless to say, this scandalous revelation completely blows out of the water the Left’s morally relative, propagandist line that homosexuality is “normal, natural, and good.”

          To believers, it’s never surprising when modern science serves to validated the transcendent truths found in Scripture (not that God’s truth needs validating).  James 1:15 warns: “Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death.”

          Indeed, it seems the common moniker “homosexual lifestyle” has it exactly backwards.  As opponents of the extremist “gay” lobby have long illustrated, homosexuality falls dead center within our nation’s burgeoning culture of death.

          First, take that feminist rite of passage: abortion.  Due to a national lack of sexual self-governance, in 2010 we find that – post-Roe v. Wade – 50 million of God’s precious children have been slaughtered at Satan’s altar of euphemistic “choice.”

          Moreover, millions of self-styled “gay” men have – as a direct result of homosexual conduct – died from AIDS, syphilis, hepatitis, and other forms of homosexually transmitted disease.

          Romans 1:26-27, which Obama once comically called an “obscure passage in Romans,” addresses the homosexual deathstyle:  “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.  Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.  Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.”

          It’s tragic when people yield to disordered sexual temptations that can literally kill them spiritually, emotionally, and physically.  Nobody with any compassion enjoys watching others “[receive] in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.”  But a corollary to free will is living – or dying – with the choices we’ve made.
          Matt Barber, “The Gay Deathstyle,” Whistleblower, Nov. 2010, p.24

          The point of this article is the refutation of the claim that homosexual behavior is not medically destructive.

  5. Absolute rubbish Chatfield. My eldest brother is gay and has been in a monogamous relationship with his partner, now civil partner, for 47 years. They have been happier together longer than many straight couples I know. They are men who pose no threat to women, no threat to anyone except those like yourself who have brains so narrow and hateful that you have no justification other than the need to substantiate your claims with utter nonsense. They are the kindest, most caring people I have ever met, and certainly far more likeable than the many people I have encountered purporting to be ‘christians’. Like you and the Whites. You are actual proof that christianity has attracted unkind, intolerant, bigoted and just plain nasty people into its ranks.

    • James,
      The fact that some homosexuals don’t suffer problems does not negate that the majority do. Taking the extreme as an example of the norm is not good logic.

      Since when is it “hateful” to speak truth? You call it “hateful” because you know it is true but can’t accept it. Truth does sound like hate to those who hate the truth.

      Demonstrate where I have been “unkind” – unless speaking the truth is considered unkind.
      Demonstrate where I have been “intolerant,” unless not wanting to be forced to sanction something is intolerant.
      Demonstrate where I have been “bigoted” – which seems to be a term liberals don’t understand
      Demonstrate where I have been “nasty.”

      All these claims are ad hominems so as not to deal with the facts at hand. Just marginalize the debate by claiming all these lies about your opposition.

      It seems you have proven your bigotry against Christianity by the way you treat Christians.

  6. Homosexual activity harms no one
    by Matt Slick

    Saying that homosexual behavior harms no one is not true. The very lifestyle of homosexuality is highly promiscuous and brimming with disease, although pro-homosexuals will try and separate the behavior from related illnesses in their attempt to demonstrate that homosexual behavior doesn’t harm anyone. But the evidence doesn’t support that notion.

    Homosexuals more likely to suffer from depression: “A new study in the United Kingdom has revealed that homosexuals are about 50% more likely to suffer from depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the population, reports Health24.com….the risk of suicide jumped over 200% if an individual had engaged in a homosexual lifestyle…the lifespan of a homosexual is on average 24 years shorter than that of a heterosexual…While the Health 24 article suggested that homosexuals may be pushed to substance abuse and suicide because of anti-homosexual cultural and family pressures, empirical tests have shown that there is no difference in homosexual health risk depending on the level of tolerance in a particular environment. Homosexuals in the United States and Denmark – the latter of which is acknowledged to be highly tolerant of homosexuality – both die on average in their early 50’s, or in their 40’s if AIDS is the cause of death. The average age for all residents in either country ranges from the mid-to-upper-70s.”(onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=255614)
    Breast Cancer higher among Lesbians: “Breast cancer is the most common cancer diagnosed among women and is the leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States, following cancers of the skin and lung. Recent research has identified risk factors for breast cancer that may differentially affect lesbian and bisexual women, including nulliparity and higher rates of alcohol consumption and overweight, that may place this population at geater [sic] risk than heterosexual women of developing breast cancer.” (Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.showFeature&FeatureID=319&E:\ColdFusion9\verity\Data\dummy.txt)
    Promiscuity

    While it could be argued that two men (or two women) having sexual intercourse with each other and only each other can’t harm anyone else, the fact is that homosexuality is not a “monogomous affair.” The homosexual lifestyle is by nature promiscuous, as the facts demonstrate.

    “In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that “the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500.” In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., “A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men,” Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354.” (See more statistics on Promiscuity at http://www.carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity)
    To ignore the facts of incredible sexual promiscuity among homosexuals is the admission that the problem exists, and by ignoring it they hope it goes away. Also, to ignore the facts of such promiscuity is dangerous in itself since policies and arguments are made based on facts. To ignore the facts means the policies and arguments are not sound when used to promote the homosexual lifestyle.

    Context determines meaning

    In defining words, context determines the meaning. Likewise, the context of homosexual acts is equally important. The pro-homosexual community wants to separate the act from the deleterious effects. It is like saying that the behavior of jumping doesn’t harm anyone. Well, that depends. Jumping in your living room shouldn’t harm you, but jumping near the edge of a cliff can. Behaviors always have contexts and homosexual activity is in the context of 1) a redefinition of sexual morals, and 2) its accompanying promiscuity. When you redefine sexual morals in a far more loose manner, consequences follow – such as an increase in promiscuity and disease.

    AIDS and Homosexuality

    2% of U.S. population is gay yet it accounts for 61% of HIV infection: “Men who have sex with men remain the group most heavily affected by new HIV infections. While CDC estimates that MSM represent only 2 percent of the U.S. population, they accounted for the majority (61 percent; 29,300) of all new HIV infections in 2009. Young MSM (ages 13 to 29) were most severely affected, representing more than one quarter of all new HIV infections nationally (27 percent; 12,900 in 2009).” (Center for Disease Control, cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVIncidencePressRelease.html)
    “Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s….” (Center for Disease Control, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm)
    If homosexual sexuality does not harm anyone, then why are the statistics for homosexual AIDS percentages so much higher than the heterosexual population? Again, there is a connection between the redefinition of sexual morals, the increase of promiscuity due to that redefinition, and the proliferation of disease due to the promiscuous behavior. As I said earlier, actions always have contexts.

    Homosexuality and reduced Lifespan

    Gay men lifespan shorter than non gay men: “The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., “Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men,” International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.” (Exodus Global Alliance, exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    “In 2007, MSM [Men Sex with Men] were 44 to 86 times as likely to be diagnosed with HIV compared with other men, and 40 to 77 times as likely as women.” (Center for Disease Control, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm)
    Domestic Violence higher among homosexuals: “‘the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population.'(Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrier, “Intimate Violence in Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications,” Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41–59.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Sex of women with women at greater health risk than women with men: “For women, a history of sex with women may be a marker for increased risk of adverse sexual, reproductive, and general health outcomes compared with women who reported sex exclusively with men.” (American Journal of Public Health, ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/1126)
    If mere homosexual activity harms no one, then why do gay men have a lifespan that is significantly less than heterosexual men (1 above)? Why is the homosexual man 44 to 86 times more likely to be diagnosed with HIV than heterosexual men (2)? Why is the incidence of domestic violence double that of heterosexual men (3)? Why do lesbian women have greater health risks than heterosexual women (4)?

    Conclusion

    Since behaviors always have contexts, and rarely have no effect upon anyone else, it is obvious that homosexual behavior is indeed harmful. It is full of promiscuity and its related health risks. The facts speak contrary to the idea that mere homosexual activity harms no one.

  7. Golfieni,
    I can bombard you with articles proving the medical and psychological harm of homosexual behavior, none of which is based on religious belief. You have made the “no true scotsman” fallacy by deciding that any scholarship against your agenda is not “reputable”

  8. Statistics on HIV/AIDS and health related issues
    by Matt Slick

    Emotional Health
    Homosexuals more likely to suffer from depression: “A new study in the United Kingdom has revealed that homosexuals are about 50% more likely to suffer from depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the population, reports Health24.com….the risk of suicide jumped over 200% if an individual had engaged in a homosexual lifestyle…the lifespan of a homosexual is on average 24 years shorter than that of a heterosexual…While the Health 24 article suggested that homosexuals may be pushed to substance abuse and suicide because of anti-homosexual cultural and family pressures, empirical tests have shown that there is no difference in homosexual health risk depending on the level of tolerance in a particular environment. Homosexuals in the United States and Denmark – the latter of which is acknowledged to be highly tolerant of homosexuality – both die on average in their early 50’s, or in their 40’s if AIDS is the cause of death. The average age for all residents in either country ranges from the mid-to-upper-70s.”(onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=255614)
    Professional psychiatrists say homosexual men are less happy: “A major study by Bell and Weinberg revealed that 78% of male homo-sexual “affairs” (relationships entered into with an intent of commitment) lasted less than three years. Only 12% lasted five years or longer. Study by Alan P. Bell and Martin S. Weinberg, “Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women”, (New York, Simon and Shuster, 1978) p.314 Certainly, this shows a pattern of broken relationships that must be painful for many. 73% of the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association who responded to a survey by Harold I. Lief said that they thought that homosexual men are less happy than others. 70% percent said they believed that the homosexuals’ problems were due more to personal conflicts than to social stigmatization. Study by Harold I. Lief, Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality 2 (1977), pp.110- 111 (Cited in Growing Up Straight by George A. Reker).” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Psychological Health
    High rate of psychological counseling among lesbians: “In a national health care survey 75% of the nearly 2000 lesbian respondents reported they had pursued psychological counselling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness. J. Bradford et al., “National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care,” Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81….” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    “Homosexual men are 6 times more likely to have attempted suicide than are heterosexual men. Study by Bell and Weinberg, “Homosexualities…”, Table 21.12” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Physical health
    Domestic Violence higher among homosexuals: “‘the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population.’ Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrier, “Intimate Violence in Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications,” Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41–59.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Higher Alcoholism among Lesbians: “‘Lesbians are 3 times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviours. Joanne Hall, “Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations,’ Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238–244.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Higher sexual molestation with homosexual parents: “A disproportionate percentage — 29 percent — of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent. … Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.” P. Cameron and K. Cameron, “Homosexual Parents,” Adolescence 31 (1996): 772″ (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Breast Cancer higher among Lesbians: “Breast cancer is the most common cancer diagnosed among women and is the leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States, following cancers of the skin and lung. Recent research has identified risk factors for breast cancer that may differentially affect lesbian and bisexual women, including nulliparity and higher rates of alcohol consumption and overweight, that may place this population at geater [sic] risk than heterosexual women of developing breast cancer.” (Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.showFeature&FeatureID=319&E:\ColdFusion9\verity\Data\dummy.txt)
    Smoking higher among Lesbians: “Tobacco use is a leading cause of morbidity and mortality in women in the United States, and evidence from studies with adults suggests that the prevalence of smoking may be higher among lesbian and bisexual women than among heterosexual women.” (Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.showFeature&FeatureID=58&E:\ColdFusion9\verity\Data\dummy.txt
    Lesbians more likely to be over weight, smoke, lack exercise, and be depressed: “Research has shown that heart disease is a leading cause of death among women and recent studies have suggested that lesbians are more likely to be overweight, smoke cigarettes, lack regular exercise and be depressed. Although there is a common assumption that lesbians avoid dieting and exercise programs because of a belief that these programs perpetuate negative societal beliefs about the acceptable female body type, research has not supported it.” (Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.showFeature&FeatureID=320&E:\ColdFusion9\verity\Data\dummy.txt)
    Sex of women with women at greater health risk than women with men: “For women, a history of sex with women may be a marker for increased risk of adverse sexual, reproductive, and general health outcomes compared with women who reported sex exclusively with men.” (American Journal of Public Health, ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/1126)
    Lesbian and bisexual women more likely to have health problems than heterosexual women: “In this first population-based study of lesbian and bisexual women’s health, we found that lesbians and bisexual women were more likely than heterosexual women to have poor health behaviors and worse access to health care. These findings support our hypothesis that sexual orientation has an independent effect on health behaviors and receipt of care, and indicate the need for the increased systematic study of the relationship between sexual orientation and various aspects of health and health care.” (Archives of Family Medicine, archfami.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/9/10/1043)
    Anal Cancer: “According to an article published in the journal Cancer in 2004, the incidence of anal cancer increased between 1973 and 2000, particularly among men. The causes of anal cancer (carcinoma of the anal canal) are not fully understood, but there is little doubt that a significant connection exists between the human papillomavirus – HPV (particularly subtypes 16 and 18) – and the occurrence of anal cancer. There is also a strong association between male homosexuality and the disease. More than 60 percent of men without HIV, and more than 90 percent of men with HIV, have human papillomavirus infection in their anal canals. Anal intercourse, whether homosexual or heterosexual, is strongly associated with HPV infection and is considered a very marked risk factor for anal carcinoma.” http://www.cancerdecisions.com/mrstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_3&products_id=267
    Life Span
    Gay men lifespan shorter than non gay men: “The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., “Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men,” International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.” (Exodus Global Alliance, exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Risk to Population at Large
    25% of HIV infected in U.K. unaware of their infection: “Of the estimated 86,500 people living with HIV in the United Kingdom, about 25 percent are not aware they are infected, the Health Protection Agency said recently.” (The Body, thebody.com/content/art59714.html)

  9. Statistics on sexual promiscuity among homosexuals
    by Matt Slick

    Promiscuity
    28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: “Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: “The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: “In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that “the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500.” In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., “A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men,” Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
    1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: “A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984.” (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
    There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, “Extramarital Sex,” 170. This is extracted from http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02)

    • Glenn,

      You could, if you were so inclined, bombard with articles detailing std rates, extra-marital sex rates (just look at the divorce rates), numbers of partners etc for heterosexuals, Would that then demonstrate that heterosexual relationships were damaging? – no it would simply detail the sex some heterosexuals have and say nothing else. You clearly have little understanding of cause and effect.

      It might point however to the need to promote stability in same sex partners however through say marriage or to tackle the climate of homophobia in society (generated by the misrepresentation and bogus claims of people such as yourself) to reduce the dehumanising effect of religiously inspired hatred.

      • “Would that then demonstrate that heterosexual relationships were damaging?…” YES. All sexual relationships are damaging.

      • Golfieni and Yuri,

        No, all sexual relationships are NOT damaging. Only immoral ones are.

        The stats on medical issues, especially, are way out of proportion to the percentage of the population of homosexuals. Yes, promiscuous heterosexuals often have medical and psychological issues, but not even close to the exponentially higher rates among a much smaller population.

        I now facts are something you do not wish to accept, because you have deceived yourself.

        There is no such thing as “homophobia” – it is a made up word used to marginalize debate.

        The only thing dehumanizing about this subject, is homosexual behavior. That itself is dehumanizing.

        You are blinded in your self-denial and are not interested in truth. I’m finished with this conversation, because it is a waste of my time to deal with foolishness from you people. I have better things to do with my life than to “throw pearls before swine.”

      • Glenn,

        I think that tells us all we need to know. You think the only sexual relations which are damaging are those which you chose to define as immoral. Biology and science has nothing to do with it but because your immorality argument has no legs you misrepresent data and make bogus claims to cause and effect. Your tactics to promote your agenda are well understood and give many rational people a good laugh. It is pure religiously inspired ignorance.

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